Comments on: Comparing low-budget streaming solutions http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/ music expertise with a local flavour Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:24:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Johan Sydseter http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-1086 Johan Sydseter Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:43:20 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-1086 On another note. I just finished a project making a cheap streaming solution for The Norwegian Wind Ensemble. The report is in Norwegian, but the conclusion is that we found a very inexpensive way of doing Internet broadcasting. You can read the rapport here: http://sydseter.blogspot.com/ On another note. I just finished a project making a cheap streaming solution for The Norwegian Wind Ensemble. The report is in Norwegian, but the conclusion is that we found a very inexpensive way of doing Internet broadcasting. You can read the rapport here:

http://sydseter.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Johan Sydseter http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-1085 Johan Sydseter Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:34:48 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-1085 I also believe that RED5 might make a difference in being a cheap alternative to FMS, but on the other hand. There is a lot of things happening in the fiber community in Norway at the moment and it is happening all over Europa as well. Telenor will next year start selling fiber to the home to the biggest cities. That means tha you in a few years don't need to tunnel http video streams anymore or make use of unicast. It will open up the use for Multicast and IPv6 and rtsp protocolling from start to finish. I guess we will see the same shift from ADSL to fiber as we saw in the end of the 90-ties from ISDN to ADSL. More on this here: http://www.telenor.no/privat/internett/tipsognyheter/fiber.jsp http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLd4x3tXDUL8h2VAQAURh_Yw!!?LMSG_CABINET=Docs_and_Resource_Ctr&LMSG_CONTENT_FILE=News_Releases_2007/News_Article_000512 Further more. Even though most of the connection will be sold as a QoS to the cable companies as part of their HD-products there will be more then enough available for the rest of us. Multicast also means that the RTMPT protocol will die of together with other similar solutions in the pre IPv6 era. So it is finally happening guys. What we all have been waiting for. I also believe that RED5 might make a difference in being a cheap alternative to FMS, but on the other hand. There is a lot of things happening in the fiber community in Norway at the moment and it is happening all over Europa as well. Telenor will next year start selling fiber to the home to the biggest cities. That means tha you in a few years don’t need to tunnel http video streams anymore or make use of unicast. It will open up the use for Multicast and IPv6 and rtsp protocolling from start to finish. I guess we will see the same shift from ADSL to fiber as we saw in the end of the 90-ties from ISDN to ADSL. More on this here:

http://www.telenor.no/privat/internett/tipsognyheter/fiber.jsp

http://www.alcatel-lucent.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLd4×3tXDUL8h2VAQAURh_Yw!!?LMSG_CABINET=Docs_and_Resource_Ctr&LMSG_CONTENT_FILE=News_Releases_2007/News_Article_000512

Further more. Even though most of the connection will be sold as a QoS to the cable companies as part of their HD-products there will be more then enough available for the rest of us. Multicast also means that the RTMPT protocol will die of together with other similar solutions in the pre IPv6 era. So it is finally happening guys. What we all have been waiting for.

]]> By: Vegard http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-973 Vegard Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:36:10 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-973 @SHoe I've read that the developers behind Red5 are working on H.264 support to be included in the next release, which is great news. I'm sure Red5 and Wowza Media Server are decent alternatives to Adobe Streaming Server. No Flash for Darwin, but a new version has been released: http://dss.macosforge.org/ Subscribe to the DSS user mailing list if you need more information on supported platforms, streaming clients etc. A lot of skilled media specialists are on that list. http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/streaming-server-users Cheers, Vegard @SHoe
I’ve read that the developers behind Red5 are working on H.264 support to be included in the next release, which is great news. I’m sure Red5 and Wowza Media Server are decent alternatives to Adobe Streaming Server.

No Flash for Darwin, but a new version has been released: http://dss.macosforge.org/

Subscribe to the DSS user mailing list if you need more information on supported platforms, streaming clients etc. A lot of skilled media specialists are on that list.

http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/streaming-server-users

Cheers,
Vegard

]]> By: SHoe http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-972 SHoe Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:15:06 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-972 Hi there, Just thought I would jump into this discussion and clarify something: Red5 can be used for streaming flash video as it implements the RTMP protocol (reverse engineered); so you don't have to pay through the nose to stream to flash clients. I suspect that the emergence of Red5 was a big factor in Adobe bringing it's insane prices down to earth. Darwin is a no-go for flash. Hi there,
Just thought I would jump into this discussion and clarify something: Red5 can be used for streaming flash video as it implements the RTMP protocol (reverse engineered); so you don’t have to pay through the nose to stream to flash clients. I suspect that the emergence of Red5 was a big factor in Adobe bringing it’s insane prices down to earth.

Darwin is a no-go for flash.

]]> By: Vegard http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-873 Vegard Tue, 20 May 2008 20:01:00 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-873 @attilio Glad you found this post and the comments useful. I don't know anything noteworthy about implementing streaming client in J2ME, unfortunately. Cheers, Vegard @attilio
Glad you found this post and the comments useful. I don’t know anything noteworthy about implementing streaming client in J2ME, unfortunately.

Cheers,
Vegard

]]> By: Attilio http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-851 Attilio Sat, 10 May 2008 00:24:59 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-851 Thanks for that, very useful to me. I am gonna develop an application to watch video from a server (FMS, Darwin ?) on WM5/6. It seems to me that it is possible to develop with java thru J2ME if using Darwin, while this is not possible using flex at client side. Do you have any feedback on this? Definitely, I should learn another language and besides I am not quite sure there's a development environment for WM based platform. Agree on VLC, lot of problems when fwd/rew video Attilio - Italy Thanks for that, very useful to me. I am gonna develop an application to watch video from a server (FMS, Darwin ?) on WM5/6. It seems to me that it is possible to develop with java thru J2ME if using Darwin, while this is not possible using flex at client side. Do you have any feedback on this? Definitely, I should learn another language and besides I am not quite sure there’s a development environment for WM based platform.
Agree on VLC, lot of problems when fwd/rew video
Attilio - Italy

]]> By: Vegard http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-498 Vegard Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:05:48 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-498 @Johan Sydseter Thanks for pointing that out! I knew that Adobe has put a vendor lock on H.264 streaming to flash player, but not that it effects all formats like you say. Progressive download works without problems for me, no special tricks required. Cheers! @Johan Sydseter
Thanks for pointing that out! I knew that Adobe has put a vendor lock on H.264 streaming to flash player, but not that it effects all formats like you say.

Progressive download works without problems for me, no special tricks required.

Cheers!

]]> By: Johan Sydseter http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-497 Johan Sydseter Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:01:00 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-497 Please note that the flash player does not support 3. party streaming servers. The flash player only support streaming over RTMP which is only supported in FMS. There is away to get support for progressive download, but that's not really streaming. Please note that the flash player does not support 3. party streaming servers. The flash player only support streaming over RTMP which is only supported in FMS. There is away to get support for progressive download, but that’s not really streaming.

]]> By: Vegard http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-384 Vegard Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:32:24 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-384 @Adam I must admit I'm a bit unsure about on-demand streaming from DSS to Flex. I found it easier to work with plain progressive download from a standard Apache web server, using hinted MP4 movies. As for live streaming, Adobe has recently released Flash Media Streaming Server 3, a cheaper version of their media server for just under US$1000. It's still not free as DSS or Red5, but definetly something I'm willing to consider. Cheers! @Adam
I must admit I’m a bit unsure about on-demand streaming from DSS to Flex. I found it easier to work with plain progressive download from a standard Apache web server, using hinted MP4 movies.

As for live streaming, Adobe has recently released Flash Media Streaming Server 3, a cheaper version of their media server for just under US$1000. It’s still not free as DSS or Red5, but definetly something I’m willing to consider.

Cheers!

]]> By: Adam Lett http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-382 Adam Lett Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:51:14 +0000 http://www.musikkteknologen.no/2007/09/25/comparing-low-budget-streaming-solutions/#comment-382 Hello. I'm curious about the solution where you use Darwin Streaming Server and a Flex client for video on demand. How is that possible? I'm trying to do something similar, but I was almost under the impression that it was impossible. I'd much appreciate some details about this solution. - Adam Hello.

I’m curious about the solution where you use Darwin Streaming Server and a Flex client for video on demand. How is that possible? I’m trying to do something similar, but I was almost under the impression that it was impossible. I’d much appreciate some details about this solution.

- Adam

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